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Topic: Reddit's bans of r/coontown and r/fatpeoplehate worked

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 week ago #65,890

inb4 mad

inb4 meta provides some bullshit free speech plea and a thinly veiled defense of the scum

You Can’t Stay Here: The Efficacy of Reddit’s 2015 Ban Examined Through Hate Speech

ESHWAR CHANDRASEKHARAN, Georgia Institute of Technology UMASHANTHI PAVALANATHAN, Georgia Institute of Technology ANIRUDH SRINIVASAN, Georgia Institute of Technology
ADAM GLYNN, Emory University
JACOB EISENSTEIN, Georgia Institute of Technology ERIC GILBERT, University of Michigan

In 2015, Reddit closed several subreddits—foremost among them r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown—due to violations of Reddit’s anti-harassment policy. However, the e ectiveness of banning as a moderation approach remains unclear: banning might diminish hateful behavior, or it may relocate such behavior to di erent parts of the site. We study the ban of r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown in terms of its e ect on both participating users and a ected subreddits. Working from over 100M Reddit posts and comments, we generate hate speech lexicons to examine variations in hate speech usage via causal inference methods. We nd that the ban worked for Reddit. More accounts than expected discontinued using the site; those that stayed drastically decreased their hate speech usage—by at least 80%. Though many subreddits saw an in ux of r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown “migrants,” those subreddits saw no signi cant changes in hate speech usage. In other words, other subreddits did not inherit the problem. We conclude by re ecting on the apparent success of the ban, discussing implications for online moderation, Reddit and internet communities more broadly.


http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf

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Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 43 seconds later[^] [v] #812,622

@OP
Nice cuckpost.

!Uvm54ORbmo (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,626

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
Thanks for being mad.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,629

shame has been and will continue to be one of the greatest modifiers of behavior known to man. i will fight for people's right to express themselves free from hindrance by the state, but i will also fight for individuals rights to shut down and shame anyone they see fit. not just because it has an effect, but because echo chambers are themselves protected forms of speech. the government doesn't have a right to censor the vast majority of speech, but they do have an obligation to protect anyone who would.

kinda interesting. it also makes places like r/the_donald cancerous shitboxes, but it works both ways so i'm cool with it.

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,632

Wouldn't Meta applaud a fat hate subreddit being banned though?

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,635

@812,629 (squeegee)
Even better cuckpost than @OPenis! Well done!

squeegee joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,637

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
reported to try and get you banned for a few hours. just for fun.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,638

> More accounts than expected discontinued using the site.

So they just went to /pol/ or somewhere like that. Big deal

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,641

They say it worked because other subreddits didn't "inherit" the problem. Did they consider that those people simply decided if reddit was going to ban their subs then reddit was just another turncoat so they fucked off to /pol/ instead?

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 1 week ago, 57 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,642

@812,637 (squeegee)
Typical cuck behavior. Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,645

@812,638 (F)
@812,641 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
missed-the-point.tar.gz

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
autistic meltdown detected take your domestos

Meta joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,650

I don't mind Reddit or Facebook banning people they don't like. It's their house, their rules. You can see also now the rise of things like Gab and Voat providing mirror image versions of reddit and twitter.

I just wish these companies could stop pretending to support "free speech" because no one actually does. Not even me. If I had a social network anyone not in the bottom right quadrant of the political compass would be banned.

It just bugs the shit out of me when people say "we support free speech but not the speech we disagree with".

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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,651

An interesting finding. I would've thought that people like that would largely just try to circumnavigate the ban, but apparently banning those subreddits deters most of them.

@812,638 (F)
@812,641 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Well, yes. That is what the study was looking at. How effective banning those types of communities is on a website. The point isn't to stop these people from posting that content anywhere at all, but to deny them one specific platform for doing so. Whether they simply went to /pol/ afterwards is irrelevant.

So it is indeed a valuable finding, as it suggests that a website of Reddit's scale can be greatly cleaned up with some proactive, sweeping moderation.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,653

@previous (I)
Found the person with functional reading skills

Anonymous F replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,655

@812,651 (I)
Shit continues, only the venue probably changes when it is banned from a place? Grate study, would fund again.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,659

@previous (F)
show us on the doll where the Reddit policies touched you

Anonymous F replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #812,665

@previous (A)
Who cares about Reddit? Water is still wet, even if there is a drought somewhere. But maybe these guys should study that too

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #812,666

@previous (F)
Calm down and try to join a conversation

Anonymous F replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #812,671

@previous (A)
That was just posted in another thread, in response to an ad hominem attack. Do you think I'm that guy, or are you trying to fit in or something?

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 6 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,730

tldr

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 1 week ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,733

@812,653 (A)
Nice samefagging, Anonymous I.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 1 week ago, 10 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,786

@812,645 (A)
I could've told you the same thing without using any grant money. People leaving places they feel unwelcome isn't a new revelation.

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,787

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
No, you couldn't have. Science does not work by making "common sense" assumptions. You examine measure things against a testable hypothesis. Before this, you yourself could not have said with any evidence that subredit "leakage" and continued harassment posts are reduced by sweeping moderation.

I'm sorry you're not seeing the value of this, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The real benefit of the study will hopefully be that big websites like Reddit will be more confident in dealing with harassment, which continues to be a problem on the modern internet.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 8 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,788

@812,786 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
poor reading skills detected

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,789

@previous (A)
Don't worry, OP. I see the value in it. xoxo

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,797

@812,787 (I)
Yes, I could, and it would not require grants. But you're just a troll so instead of wasting my time elaborating while you throw technicalities and goalpost-moving at me, here's all you get: lol faggot

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 17 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,798

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Oh gee, Fuck Alms, maybe universities could save time and money by hiring you instead of overhyped "researchers". What do those morons know, anyway?

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,801

@812,797 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)

You're argument is that he could not do a scientific examination, her argument is that all the scientists did was read Reddit.

Basically. You think that the hypothesis was not enough without the evidence, but she thinks the hypothesis is kind of obvious and didn't really require anyone to to find evidence

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 20 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,809

So what are the new subreddits?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 25 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,819

@812,801 (K)
> her

Anonymous F replied with this 1 week ago, 53 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,838

@812,809 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
The researchers didn't bother to look into that, they seem to only care that words like nigger do not show up on /wholesomememes at a higher rate than before.

/Fatpeoplehate is just /holdmyfries or something similar probably

@812,787 (I)
I like that they have completely ignored how subreddits actually work. You could shut down /thomasthetankengine and find out that no one brings up Thomas and friends in sports and weather subreddits, and if they did it would be deleted for being off topic. That's not science that needs a study, it's these people needing someone to explain to them how Reddit works.
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