Topic: Horrible depiction of Sharia law in action.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B started this discussion 11 months ago #6,581
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 33 seconds later[^] [v] #115,206
Do the crime take the punishment
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 38 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #115,207
Why does it let you watch flagged videos without singing in if you watch them from here?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,209
oh sand niggers... when will you learn that western culture is the only way?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,211
@115,206
Women get flogged for being raped as well.
Women get flogged for being raped as well.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 16 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,212
@115,207
I don't know.
I don't know.
TTEH !penisGseqs joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,213
Don't Sudan still crucify people for certain crimes? Sharia law is fucked up.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,217
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,219
@previous
Whatever.
Whatever.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 51 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,221
SQUARED !B./giPt8go joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,224
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,227
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I quite enjoyed that. Are you comparing me to him?
I quite enjoyed that. Are you comparing me to him?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,228
I fully support sharia law.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 7 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,230
PROTIP: Sharia law only applies to Muslims.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 35 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,232
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I know. Why does that matter?
I know. Why does that matter?
SQUARED !B./giPt8go replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,237
@115,227
Nahhhh. :')
Nahhhh. :')
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,239
@115,224
> Muslamic law
lol
Mind you, at my secondary school we had half of the kids referring to Muslims as "Islams".
> Muslamic law
lol
Mind you, at my secondary school we had half of the kids referring to Muslims as "Islams".
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,243
Someday history will look upon religion as the greatest tragedy of humanity. I really hope within the next few hundred years the major religions will disappear.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #115,247
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So do I. I wish that more people had critical thinking skills.
So do I. I wish that more people had critical thinking skills.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,263
Good punishment to keep order intact. Strict laws enforce greater fear for people that commit crimes.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,268
@previous
Nice.
Nice.
Anonymous K replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,269
@previous
Do you agree with me?
Do you agree with me?
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,277
@115,268
Ignore the trolls. I know they never stop, but its all we can do. You'd think they'd get bored with it.
Ignore the trolls. I know they never stop, but its all we can do. You'd think they'd get bored with it.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,304
@115,247
I wish that you had critical thinking skills lol. You are a terribly fuzzy thinker.
Sharia law is evil and is an integral part of Islam. There is no analogous concept in Christianity.
I wish that you had critical thinking skills lol. You are a terribly fuzzy thinker.
Sharia law is evil and is an integral part of Islam. There is no analogous concept in Christianity.
Mindblast !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,308
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Crusades, stoning, genocide, incest, daughters marrying rapists, etc.
Crusades, stoning, genocide, incest, daughters marrying rapists, etc.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,315
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,320
@115,308
I hope you are really young lol cause that was just dumb
I hope you are really young lol cause that was just dumb
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,324
@115,315
wwere your critical thinking lol? this is n9t about the history of islam or christianity.
Part of the Muslim religion is to institute sharia law. There is no analagous part of the christian religion.
wwere your critical thinking lol? this is n9t about the history of islam or christianity.
Part of the Muslim religion is to institute sharia law. There is no analagous part of the christian religion.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,326
@previous
That wasn't what this was about at all. You brought up Christianity.
That wasn't what this was about at all. You brought up Christianity.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,336
@previous
Wtf... you are replying to my comment. I know what it was about LOL
Wtf... you are replying to my comment. I know what it was about LOL
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,337
@115,304
This is you bringing up Christianity first.
This is you bringing up Christianity first.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,339
@previous
Yes, and the lack of an analogous Christian sharia law. at which point, you brought up unrelated, un analogous concepts because of your deficit of critical thinking skills
Yes, and the lack of an analogous Christian sharia law. at which point, you brought up unrelated, un analogous concepts because of your deficit of critical thinking skills
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,340
@previous
Why bring it up at all? I never said that Christianity had a similar law. This post was about sharia law.
Why bring it up at all? I never said that Christianity had a similar law. This post was about sharia law.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #115,341
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,346
@115,340
You mentioned the destruction of all religion based upon your disgust at sharia law. I showed that Christianity has no analogous concept.
You mentioned the destruction of all religion based upon your disgust at sharia law. I showed that Christianity has no analogous concept.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,348
Please use critical thinking skills. There is not law code integral to Christianity. @115,341
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 7 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,349
> I showed that Christianity has no analogous concept
so what are all those rules in the bible then
so what are all those rules in the bible then
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 3 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,350
@115,346
Oh I see. I do not believe in making laws based on holy books.
Oh I see. I do not believe in making laws based on holy books.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,354
@115,341
The difference is Islam has never allowed for modernization on any large scale at all. All of the important points of modern society - corporations (for profit and for civil reasons), secular political institutions, laws developed apart from scripture - are totally incompatible with Islam at a fundamental level (some are outright forbidden). As a religion, it is tribal in nature and simply doesn't adapt.
You can point to shit from hundreds of years ago, but the reality is that Christianity has moved on and Islam hasn't, because it can'. I really don't understand how intelligent people buy this garbage that all religions are equally bad. They may be nonsensical to you, but Christianity and Judaism are much more humane, adaptable religions and they don't contribute to suffering today in anywhere near the numbers Islam does.
The difference is Islam has never allowed for modernization on any large scale at all. All of the important points of modern society - corporations (for profit and for civil reasons), secular political institutions, laws developed apart from scripture - are totally incompatible with Islam at a fundamental level (some are outright forbidden). As a religion, it is tribal in nature and simply doesn't adapt.
You can point to shit from hundreds of years ago, but the reality is that Christianity has moved on and Islam hasn't, because it can'. I really don't understand how intelligent people buy this garbage that all religions are equally bad. They may be nonsensical to you, but Christianity and Judaism are much more humane, adaptable religions and they don't contribute to suffering today in anywhere near the numbers Islam does.
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mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,355
Which ones? @115,349
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,356
@115,354
They're just behind the other two in development
xstianity was the same 500 years ago
and in 500 years islam will be like xstianity now
They're just behind the other two in development
xstianity was the same 500 years ago
and in 500 years islam will be like xstianity now
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,357
@115,354
They have and still do contribute to suffering. Look at Israel. Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that any religion is true and correct, so what good can come from basing your life on lies?
They have and still do contribute to suffering. Look at Israel. Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that any religion is true and correct, so what good can come from basing your life on lies?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 10 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,358
Neither do I. @115,350
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 3 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,359
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,361
Lolno the whole world was like that 500 years ago. Now the whole world (except for Islam) is different. @115,356
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,362
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,363
@115,357
Zionism is pretty far removed from a genuine religious movement, imo. It's a land battle.
There's really no harm in basing your life on any given philosophy as long as it makes you happy. And religious people are happier, actually.
Zionism is pretty far removed from a genuine religious movement, imo. It's a land battle.
There's really no harm in basing your life on any given philosophy as long as it makes you happy. And religious people are happier, actually.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,364
@115,362
You think that religion has nothing to do with that conflict?
You think that religion has nothing to do with that conflict?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,365
@115,363
Zionism is a genuine religious movement.
Zionism is a genuine religious movement.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,366
I don't sorry. There are two rules: love and love people @115,359
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,368
@115,363
What about all of those people who are against gay marriage because of religion? Or how religion has been used against women since it's existence until now? Or how the bible was used to promote slavery?
What about all of those people who are against gay marriage because of religion? Or how religion has been used against women since it's existence until now? Or how the bible was used to promote slavery?
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mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 0 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,369
It does for the Palestinian side. Not so much for the Israeli side. @115,364
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,371
@previous
Proof.
Proof.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 40 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,372
@115,365
No, it's political and ethnic, but hardly religious. The founders didn't buy into Judaism at all actually and were quite secular.
No, it's political and ethnic, but hardly religious. The founders didn't buy into Judaism at all actually and were quite secular.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,373
@115,368
That's not part of the religion though. That's people abusing religion.
Are you am anarchist? Because people have abused government too.
That's not part of the religion though. That's people abusing religion.
Are you am anarchist? Because people have abused government too.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 36 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,375
Proving a negativemmmmmmmmmm+ @115,371
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,376
@115,372
You don't think any of that has to do with religion? What does it matter if America's founders were secular?
You don't think any of that has to do with religion? What does it matter if America's founders were secular?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,379
@115,368
That sucks and I disagree with them, but it rather proves my point since the attitudes are changing (and many church leaders are behind the progressives). Just as many used the Bible to argue against slavery.
The scary thing about Islam is the uniformity of interpretation, crossing national boundaries and centuries of followers. There simply isn't any forward movement, because it is incompatible with progress.
That sucks and I disagree with them, but it rather proves my point since the attitudes are changing (and many church leaders are behind the progressives). Just as many used the Bible to argue against slavery.
The scary thing about Islam is the uniformity of interpretation, crossing national boundaries and centuries of followers. There simply isn't any forward movement, because it is incompatible with progress.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,381
@115,376
You realize I was talking about Zionism, right?
You realize I was talking about Zionism, right?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,382
@115,379
You don't know that things will change. Like it or not, most early religions were just as horrible as Islam. Religion is still used to hurt people all over the world. How can that be defended? How can living a lie be defended? It's up to an individual to chose to be religious, but i won't pretend like it's a smart thing to do.
You don't know that things will change. Like it or not, most early religions were just as horrible as Islam. Religion is still used to hurt people all over the world. How can that be defended? How can living a lie be defended? It's up to an individual to chose to be religious, but i won't pretend like it's a smart thing to do.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 42 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,383
Israels founders you tool LOL @115,376
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,384
@115,382
Culture was bad lol. Do you think people were good and religion made them ebil?
Culture was bad lol. Do you think people were good and religion made them ebil?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,385
@115,382
Yep. Early religions. Islam is no longer an early religion, and yet it is still one of the most malignant forces in the world. Have you ever even read the Koran?
You really have no way of knowing if religion is a lie. None of us do. People are free to believe whatever silly things they would like. What does it matter to you?
Truly, I don't get why atheists/agnostics are so bent on lumping all religions together as equally evil (except Buddhism and new age stuff, which they seem give a pass to for some reason). Why is it so important to you that everyone agree all religion is equally bad? On its face, just looking at the way of life in various countries, it should be pretty obvious that there are some differences.
Yep. Early religions. Islam is no longer an early religion, and yet it is still one of the most malignant forces in the world. Have you ever even read the Koran?
You really have no way of knowing if religion is a lie. None of us do. People are free to believe whatever silly things they would like. What does it matter to you?
Truly, I don't get why atheists/agnostics are so bent on lumping all religions together as equally evil (except Buddhism and new age stuff, which they seem give a pass to for some reason). Why is it so important to you that everyone agree all religion is equally bad? On its face, just looking at the way of life in various countries, it should be pretty obvious that there are some differences.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,386
@115,382
Government is used to hurt people all over the world. are you an anarchist?
Government is used to hurt people all over the world. are you an anarchist?
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,387
Buspuppie, its best to completely ignore mountainman, if you notice thats the what the rest of us do. He does nothing but spout the same tired old shtick about religion and pedophilia.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,388
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,390
@115,385
I think that we can tell if certain religions are false. If you wouldn't respect any other book that was filled was contradictions, falsehoods, and crazy stories, why respect religious books?
I think that we can tell if certain religions are false. If you wouldn't respect any other book that was filled was contradictions, falsehoods, and crazy stories, why respect religious books?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 20 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,391
@115,387
I'm only responding to cunt.
I'm only responding to cunt.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,393
@115,354
Sure other religions are more progressive than Islam, but a more polished turd is still a turd.
I can appreciate your point, and I'd tend to agree that Islam is generally the least progressive faith, but any religion is in itself redundant, aged and stupid.
Sure other religions are more progressive than Islam, but a more polished turd is still a turd.
I can appreciate your point, and I'd tend to agree that Islam is generally the least progressive faith, but any religion is in itself redundant, aged and stupid.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 15 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,394
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 23 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,395
@115,390
As historical documents, they're certainly questionable, yes. But as far as theological content, I don't know how anyone could possibly know if there's truth to them.
As historical documents, they're certainly questionable, yes. But as far as theological content, I don't know how anyone could possibly know if there's truth to them.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,396
Such as? @115,388
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,397
@115,395
The theological content isn't questionable?
The theological content isn't questionable?
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,398
@115,393
This.
Well said KL. Religion does nothing good for this world, it never has and it never will.
This.
Well said KL. Religion does nothing good for this world, it never has and it never will.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 3 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,399
@115,393
Raëlism is pretty advanced.
Raëlism is pretty advanced.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,400
@115,397
It sounds silly. But how can we know?
IMO, agnosticism is the only consistent and defensible position for this reason. Atheism is taking a position on something we have no way of proving or disproving.
It sounds silly. But how can we know?
IMO, agnosticism is the only consistent and defensible position for this reason. Atheism is taking a position on something we have no way of proving or disproving.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,401
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How an we know that the Harry Potter world isn't real? Also, we are not debating the existence of god, just the accuracy of holy books.
How an we know that the Harry Potter world isn't real? Also, we are not debating the existence of god, just the accuracy of holy books.
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mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 56 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,402
@115,395
I certainly see the numbers mentioned in the old testament as... questionable lol
I certainly see the numbers mentioned in the old testament as... questionable lol
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 18 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,403
@115,401
Would you say that you know for sure the Harry Potter world isn't real?
Would you say that you know for sure the Harry Potter world isn't real?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 11 months ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,404
@115,402
God will judge you for this.
God will judge you for this.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 49 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,405
@115,398
Religion does many great things for this world, it always has and always will.
Religion does many great things for this world, it always has and always will.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,406
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 1 second later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,407
@115,400
> But how can we know?
The people who wrote it were claiming a truth, they were just people. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not only is there no evidence, but there is a great amount of evidence to the contrary. Its all rather silly.
I know unicorns don't exist. Its a fact. Same with gods.
> But how can we know?
The people who wrote it were claiming a truth, they were just people. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not only is there no evidence, but there is a great amount of evidence to the contrary. Its all rather silly.
I know unicorns don't exist. Its a fact. Same with gods.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 24 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,408
@115,403
We can be pretty sure. You would call someone crazy if they followed rules from the Harry Potter books because they might be real.
We can be pretty sure. You would call someone crazy if they followed rules from the Harry Potter books because they might be real.
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 34 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,409
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,410
@115,406
They claimed to have cloned a human girl.
They claimed to have cloned a human girl.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,411
@115,404
LOL ;p
LOL ;p
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,412
@115,409
A complete lack of evidence is good evidence in of itself. Religion/gods from a theoretical standpoint doesn't stand up to the slightest of scrutiny.
A complete lack of evidence is good evidence in of itself. Religion/gods from a theoretical standpoint doesn't stand up to the slightest of scrutiny.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 3 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,413
@115,400
I suppose we can't, but then we also have no way of knowing that there isn't a teapot orbiting the sun. For example, the bible, the main 'proof' of Christianity is riddled with fallacies. It's not a convincing argument when you start looking at it.
I suppose we can't, but then we also have no way of knowing that there isn't a teapot orbiting the sun. For example, the bible, the main 'proof' of Christianity is riddled with fallacies. It's not a convincing argument when you start looking at it.
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mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 8 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,414
I have the evidence of the holy spirit's indwelling presence :D @115,407
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,415
Lol no its not. @115,412
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos triple-posted this 11 months ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,416
Explain further. @115,413
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,417
@115,385
Islam still does horrible things in a barbaric way. George Bush (undoubtedly a religious man who was the hero of the Evangelicals) denied federal funding for abortions, restricting the rights of women abd did his part to hold back stem cell research (a stem cell related procedure may have recently helped cure a man of AIDS). When the Dali Lama ran Tibet he lead a nation that encouraged slavery abd the mistreatment of anyone who wasn't a priest.
All religions are bad and have lead to horrible things happening to innocent people. That cannot be disputed. You can bieve that god cannot be disproven but to me god has never been proven. I am an atheist and if I am wrong than god will not let me complete this sentence.
Islam still does horrible things in a barbaric way. George Bush (undoubtedly a religious man who was the hero of the Evangelicals) denied federal funding for abortions, restricting the rights of women abd did his part to hold back stem cell research (a stem cell related procedure may have recently helped cure a man of AIDS). When the Dali Lama ran Tibet he lead a nation that encouraged slavery abd the mistreatment of anyone who wasn't a priest.
All religions are bad and have lead to horrible things happening to innocent people. That cannot be disputed. You can bieve that god cannot be disproven but to me god has never been proven. I am an atheist and if I am wrong than god will not let me complete this sentence.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,421
@previous
George bush was my ideological enemy. Regardless, none of these abuses are integral to the religion - except sharia law.
George bush was my ideological enemy. Regardless, none of these abuses are integral to the religion - except sharia law.
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Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,426
@previous
George Bush got his push from the Evangelicals this cannot be disputed.
George Bush got his push from the Evangelicals this cannot be disputed.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 28 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,427
@115,412
Actually no, that's not how it works; that's a logical fallacy.
Actually no, that's not how it works; that's a logical fallacy.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,436
@previous
Like you said, we can't be sure. But the fact that most religions and their respective holy books have fallacies and contradictions in what they preach is a good reason to not believe in them.
Like you said, we can't be sure. But the fact that most religions and their respective holy books have fallacies and contradictions in what they preach is a good reason to not believe in them.
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Anais joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,441
@115,372
Are you kidding me? Whether it's political or religious, it is irrelevant. Judaism is also a very politically-driven religion, it's as tribal as Islam is, and Jews are often incredibly caught up in the religious significance behind their entitlement to Israel.
Are you kidding me? Whether it's political or religious, it is irrelevant. Judaism is also a very politically-driven religion, it's as tribal as Islam is, and Jews are often incredibly caught up in the religious significance behind their entitlement to Israel.
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,443
Anais replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,447
@115,385
I don't agree. 'If you don't believe in anything, you'll fall for anything' or so the saying goes. Critical thinking is essential and believing any old nonsense just cos it appears harmless can lead to stupidity on a dangerous level. I don't see the problem with mocking all fantastical belief systems. You either are a critical thinker, or you aren't.
I don't agree. 'If you don't believe in anything, you'll fall for anything' or so the saying goes. Critical thinking is essential and believing any old nonsense just cos it appears harmless can lead to stupidity on a dangerous level. I don't see the problem with mocking all fantastical belief systems. You either are a critical thinker, or you aren't.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,449
@115,427
Looking at the evidence presented from both sides, its only reasonable to conclude gods don't exist. If I were to claim elves flew in the sky at night, you could not say you know they don't without committing a logical fallacy. One could apply the same standards of 'knowing' one way or the other about anything, and if they did, nothing would be known for sure. Everything would be a logical fallacy if only one person were to claim otherwise. This is all a dream, prove me wrong. ;)
Looking at the evidence presented from both sides, its only reasonable to conclude gods don't exist. If I were to claim elves flew in the sky at night, you could not say you know they don't without committing a logical fallacy. One could apply the same standards of 'knowing' one way or the other about anything, and if they did, nothing would be known for sure. Everything would be a logical fallacy if only one person were to claim otherwise. This is all a dream, prove me wrong. ;)
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,450
@115,443
She's right?
She's right?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,453
@previous
No.
No.
Anais replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,457
@previous
Where was i wrong? I understand that not all Jews are zionists who believe in the state of Israel. But not all fundamentalist Jews think the same. What's the difference between that and Islam? Not all muslims agree on things either.
Where was i wrong? I understand that not all Jews are zionists who believe in the state of Israel. But not all fundamentalist Jews think the same. What's the difference between that and Islam? Not all muslims agree on things either.
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Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,464
@115,396
pretty much of pauls letters are all rules
the sermon on the mount said quite a few
the teachings of the parables giving rules to live by
etc
pretty much of pauls letters are all rules
the sermon on the mount said quite a few
the teachings of the parables giving rules to live by
etc
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 38 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,513
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,514
Please elaborate and name some. @115,436
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,516
@115,513
You are right which is why it is not mentioned anywhere in the Christian bible.
You are right which is why it is not mentioned anywhere in the Christian bible.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,526
@115,464
Lolno
Jesus and Paul gave principles. This is why Christianity has so many interpretations, denominations and cultures and has no real culture apart from that of general society.
Lolno
Jesus and Paul gave principles. This is why Christianity has so many interpretations, denominations and cultures and has no real culture apart from that of general society.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,533
@115,516
The bible contains histories. It is wrong to draw moral lessons from them.
Christians do not follow Jewish law. They follow the law of liberty - love god, love people
The bible contains histories. It is wrong to draw moral lessons from them.
Christians do not follow Jewish law. They follow the law of liberty - love god, love people
[^_^] !IOdbnXsKDk joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 56 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,601
@previous
More often than not, they hate the most people
More often than not, they hate the most people
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,618
@previous
WhaWhat?w?
WhaWhat?w?
[^_^] !IOdbnXsKDk replied with this 11 months ago, 34 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,644
@previous
Most christians have more prejudices because most Christians have been raised to be elitest.
Most christians have more prejudices because most Christians have been raised to be elitest.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 11 months ago, 14 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,654
@115,533
> The bible contains histories. It is wrong to draw moral lessons from them.
Like the ten commandments etc. Also as Penn Jillette said: the bible contains equal parts truth, history, and pizza.
> The bible contains histories. It is wrong to draw moral lessons from them.
Like the ten commandments etc. Also as Penn Jillette said: the bible contains equal parts truth, history, and pizza.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,716
@115,644
That's just USA culture.typical American is arrogant typical American Christian is arrogant
That's just USA culture.typical American is arrogant typical American Christian is arrogant
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,726
@previous
You come across as incredibly arrogant.
You come across as incredibly arrogant.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 7 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,965
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 19 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,968
@115,654
The 10 commandments are practical outworkings of the two commandments that Jesus gave us. They formed the core of the Jewish law, which never applied to any of us since we are gentiles. Actually it might apply to you lol ;p
The 10 commandments are practical outworkings of the two commandments that Jesus gave us. They formed the core of the Jewish law, which never applied to any of us since we are gentiles. Actually it might apply to you lol ;p
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,969
@115,726
Howso? Explain to me so that I may change.
Howso? Explain to me so that I may change.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #115,998
@115,354
Islam will eventually catch up to other religions. They will modernize eventually.
Islam will eventually catch up to other religions. They will modernize eventually.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,001
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 11 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,005
@115,354
trolls be trollin
trolls be trollin
Anonymous E replied with this 11 months ago, 16 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,010
@115,998
I doubt it, The Quran isn't going to rewrite itself. It was a product of the 7th century and reflects the barbarity of the time. Unlike with the Bible it's extremely difficult to dismiss versus encouraging murder.
I doubt it, The Quran isn't going to rewrite itself. It was a product of the 7th century and reflects the barbarity of the time. Unlike with the Bible it's extremely difficult to dismiss versus encouraging murder.
Anonymous S replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,011
@previous
> Unlike with the Bible it's extremely difficult to dismiss versus encouraging murder.
But it wont stop people trying, will it TTEH?
> Unlike with the Bible it's extremely difficult to dismiss versus encouraging murder.
But it wont stop people trying, will it TTEH?
TTEH !penisGseqs replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,012
@previous
I said difficult, not impossible. :P
I said difficult, not impossible. :P
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 3 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,049
@116,010
Don't they both encourage murder?
Don't they both encourage murder?
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,050
> It was a product of the 7th century and reflects the barbarity of the time
but the bible isn't a product of the 11th century BCE - 1st century ACE
but the bible isn't a product of the 11th century BCE - 1st century ACE
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swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,057
@previous
Please explain further.
Please explain further.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 months ago, 40 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,060
@116,049
The old testament certainly does, but not the new. At least Christians can quote Jesus' teachings of love and peace. Besides a few quotes about respecting the Holy places of all religions, and being kind to fellow "people of the book" (Christians, Jews, etc.) Muslims don't have much to prove their religion is one of peace. If Islam vanished the world would be a safer place.
The old testament certainly does, but not the new. At least Christians can quote Jesus' teachings of love and peace. Besides a few quotes about respecting the Holy places of all religions, and being kind to fellow "people of the book" (Christians, Jews, etc.) Muslims don't have much to prove their religion is one of peace. If Islam vanished the world would be a safer place.
Anonymous E double-posted this 11 months ago, 45 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,061
@116,050
What?
What?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,064
@116,060
I think that Islam might have some peaceful teachings as well. Either way, they are both works of fiction and are used by people to hurt other's. Also, I think it's strange that so many Christians disregard the old testament.
I think that Islam might have some peaceful teachings as well. Either way, they are both works of fiction and are used by people to hurt other's. Also, I think it's strange that so many Christians disregard the old testament.
TTEH replied with this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,076
@previous
> I think that Islam might have some peaceful teachings as well.
It does, but it's overwhelmingly violent unlike the Bible. (Or the New Testament, anyway.)
> Also, I think it's strange that so many Christians disregard the old testament.
I do to. They'll happily overlook the parts were God supposedly ordered men, women and children to be slaughtered. To be a Christian requires a lot of self-delusion.
> I think that Islam might have some peaceful teachings as well.
It does, but it's overwhelmingly violent unlike the Bible. (Or the New Testament, anyway.)
> Also, I think it's strange that so many Christians disregard the old testament.
I do to. They'll happily overlook the parts were God supposedly ordered men, women and children to be slaughtered. To be a Christian requires a lot of self-delusion.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,078
@previous
Why do they think that the old testament teachings no longer apply to them? Didn't Jesus tell people to follow all laws?
Why do they think that the old testament teachings no longer apply to them? Didn't Jesus tell people to follow all laws?
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,083
@116,064
You "think that [it] might"? lol. Clearly you haven't actually read the Koran. It is at its core hateful, militaristic, violent, and intent on world domination through any means necessary. That's their endgame - dead infidels and Muslim control. There is little of the progressivism, peaceful teachings, or promotion of tolerance that exists throughout Judeochristian scriptures (granted there are a lot of unpalatable parts there, too), but I suppose you could say parts of it are pretty enough as poetry goes.
Most people who have done a comparative reading of Judeochristian vs. Muslim scriptures away with a pretty good understanding of why Muslim countries are so disproportionately represented among the most horrid places to live in the world.
If you're so convinced that all religions are equally bad, why don't you go preach about atheism in Saudi Arabia or Yemen? Or try being a gay person there? I get that you don't really like Christianity, but at least Christians won't kill you these days for who you are. There's a fundamental difference there and I'm not sure why you're so opposed to recognizing it.
You "think that [it] might"? lol. Clearly you haven't actually read the Koran. It is at its core hateful, militaristic, violent, and intent on world domination through any means necessary. That's their endgame - dead infidels and Muslim control. There is little of the progressivism, peaceful teachings, or promotion of tolerance that exists throughout Judeochristian scriptures (granted there are a lot of unpalatable parts there, too), but I suppose you could say parts of it are pretty enough as poetry goes.
Most people who have done a comparative reading of Judeochristian vs. Muslim scriptures away with a pretty good understanding of why Muslim countries are so disproportionately represented among the most horrid places to live in the world.
If you're so convinced that all religions are equally bad, why don't you go preach about atheism in Saudi Arabia or Yemen? Or try being a gay person there? I get that you don't really like Christianity, but at least Christians won't kill you these days for who you are. There's a fundamental difference there and I'm not sure why you're so opposed to recognizing it.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,085
@116,078
Jesus said that the old laws had been fulfilled by his coming, and Christians are no longer required to follow them.
Jesus said that the old laws had been fulfilled by his coming, and Christians are no longer required to follow them.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 52 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,086
@116,083
Islam might be worse, but that doesn't make Christianity good.
Islam might be worse, but that doesn't make Christianity good.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,087
@116,085
When did he say this?
1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)
3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)
4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)
7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18
8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).
9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
When did he say this?
1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.
2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)
3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)
4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)
7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18
8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).
9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,089
@116,083
Look at what's happening in Ireland. It's directly caused by the Christian bible.
Look at what's happening in Ireland. It's directly caused by the Christian bible.
TTEH replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,091
@116,078
Jesus preached only to Jews and told his deciples not to preach to non-Jews, then decided later on he'd spread his "good news" to the Gentiles. Most Christians will tell you the Old Testament only applies to the Jews/Israelites and not them.
They still can't ignore the fact that the God portrayed in the Old Testament was an unloving, uncaring, murderous psychopath. :/
Jesus preached only to Jews and told his deciples not to preach to non-Jews, then decided later on he'd spread his "good news" to the Gentiles. Most Christians will tell you the Old Testament only applies to the Jews/Israelites and not them.
They still can't ignore the fact that the God portrayed in the Old Testament was an unloving, uncaring, murderous psychopath. :/
TTEH double-posted this 11 months ago, 49 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,092
@116,085
> Jesus said that the old laws had been fulfilled by his coming, and Christians are no longer required to follow them.
Yeah, this.
> Jesus said that the old laws had been fulfilled by his coming, and Christians are no longer required to follow them.
Yeah, this.
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swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 43 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,093
@116,083
Cunt, I am not trying to force anyone to be nonreligious. But people should base their lives on the truth and the Christian bible is just as much of a lie as the Quran.
Cunt, I am not trying to force anyone to be nonreligious. But people should base their lives on the truth and the Christian bible is just as much of a lie as the Quran.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,094
@116,092
Jesus on adultery.
So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"
Jesus on adultery.
So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,097
@previous
That's a symbol though.
Commiting adultery = mixing the"pure" teachings with other things.
That's a symbol though.
Commiting adultery = mixing the"pure" teachings with other things.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 30 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,098
@116,057
I think the 11th century BCE was much more barbaric than the 7th century ACE (if we're conforming to the idea that the further back you go, the more barbaric the people become, which we apparently are even though that's an untruth). If the Qu'ran is a "product of the 7th century and reflects the barbarity of the time", why doesn't the Bible reflect the barbarity of its time?
I as pointing out the inconsistency in his arguments.
I think the 11th century BCE was much more barbaric than the 7th century ACE (if we're conforming to the idea that the further back you go, the more barbaric the people become, which we apparently are even though that's an untruth). If the Qu'ran is a "product of the 7th century and reflects the barbarity of the time", why doesn't the Bible reflect the barbarity of its time?
I as pointing out the inconsistency in his arguments.
TTEH replied with this 11 months ago, 8 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,099
@116,094
Wasn't the Book Of Revelation written by John and dictated to John by God, not Jesus?
Wasn't the Book Of Revelation written by John and dictated to John by God, not Jesus?
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 51 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,100
@previous
Angel.
Angel.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 14 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,101
TTEH replied with this 11 months ago, 59 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,102
@116,098
> If we're conforming to the idea that the further back you go, the more barbaric the people become
I wasn't implying that.
But I'm sure seventh century Arabia was a delightful place to live.
> If we're conforming to the idea that the further back you go, the more barbaric the people become
I wasn't implying that.
But I'm sure seventh century Arabia was a delightful place to live.
TTEH double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,104
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 33 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,105
@116,102
> I'm sure seventh century Arabia was a delightful place to live.
Did I ever say it was?
I'm sure 2000 BCE Jerusalem was also a pleasant vacation destination.
> I'm sure seventh century Arabia was a delightful place to live.
Did I ever say it was?
I'm sure 2000 BCE Jerusalem was also a pleasant vacation destination.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 7 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,106
@116,099
It was supposedly. But Jesus never wrote any of the bible. So we have no way of knowing what is accurate.
It was supposedly. But Jesus never wrote any of the bible. So we have no way of knowing what is accurate.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,109
@116,098
You don't think that the bible reflects how barbaric those ancient people were?
You don't think that the bible reflects how barbaric those ancient people were?
TTEH replied with this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,115
@116,098
> why doesn't the Bible reflect the barbarity of its time?
You think the Bible is peaceful?
> why doesn't the Bible reflect the barbarity of its time?
You think the Bible is peaceful?
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 37 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,119
@116,101
Because everything is a symbol in that book, and it is consistent with other interpretations.
No real motivation to write a huge post about it right now (this is like trying to explain the plot of Serial. Experiments Lain in two sentences), but in the Bible, a pure Bride is generally thought to stand for the uncorrupted church and her teachings, whereas a whore symbolises the church that let itself be compromised in order to gain power.
(lol theocracy)
Because everything is a symbol in that book, and it is consistent with other interpretations.
No real motivation to write a huge post about it right now (this is like trying to explain the plot of Serial. Experiments Lain in two sentences), but in the Bible, a pure Bride is generally thought to stand for the uncorrupted church and her teachings, whereas a whore symbolises the church that let itself be compromised in order to gain power.
(lol theocracy)
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 40 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,120
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,123
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 21 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,124
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Oh, then I agree.
Oh, then I agree.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,126
Nega !34Kas0OdzM double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,127
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 26 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,129
@previous
What? lololol
What? lololol
replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,133
@116,119
The Bible would make a lot more sense if nothing was taken literally. Unfortunately Christians still wouldn't agree on the interpretations. :-/
The Bible would make a lot more sense if nothing was taken literally. Unfortunately Christians still wouldn't agree on the interpretations. :-/
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 4 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,135
Oh and I also sub-suggested that the ancients were not much more barbaric than we moderns are and the idea that people get more barbaric the further back in time you go is a falsehood.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,136
Hey Cunt, this is what the bible says about rape.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 27 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,138
@previous
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,141
@previous
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 33 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,142
@116,135
This so much.
History is not a permanent upwards /downwards spiral. Never was, and never will be.
Which also makes the notions of "good traditional values"/"utdated values from the last millenium" HIGHLY
problematic.
This so much.
History is not a permanent upwards /downwards spiral. Never was, and never will be.
Which also makes the notions of "good traditional values"/"utdated values from the last millenium" HIGHLY
problematic.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,145
@116,136
> These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
inb4 it turns out you only read that part of the history and don't know why these events transpired.
> These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
inb4 it turns out you only read that part of the history and don't know why these events transpired.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 48 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,146
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,149
@116,145
It doesn't matter why it transpired. This is rape and murder endorsed by god.
It doesn't matter why it transpired. This is rape and murder endorsed by god.
(Edited 15 seconds later.)
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,151
@116,141
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 11 months ago, 25 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,152
@previous
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,154
Either way, we're at level 5 of the debate: "dig up dirty laundry", so I guess it's time to say my goodbyes. ;3It was fun.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,157
@116,152
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 32 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,158
@116,154
Hey you should talk to the mods about that nudie thread of you.
Hey you should talk to the mods about that nudie thread of you.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 11 months ago, 48 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,160
@116,154
It's not dirty laundry. It's horrible things in a holy book that cunt claims is peaceful.
It's not dirty laundry. It's horrible things in a holy book that cunt claims is peaceful.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 7 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,161
@116,158
That's Negi, not Nega.
That's Negi, not Nega.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 26 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,163
@previous
Oh, I thought that they were the same person. lolololol
Oh, I thought that they were the same person. lolololol
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 26 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,164
@previous
So did everybody else for a while.
So did everybody else for a while.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 29 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,165
@previous
Nega, you are my mouse right?
Nega, you are my mouse right?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,168
TTEH !penisGseqs replied with this 11 months ago, 59 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,171
@116,160
> cunt claims is peaceful
I don't think she's claiming it's completely peaceful, just more than the Quran.
> cunt claims is peaceful
I don't think she's claiming it's completely peaceful, just more than the Quran.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 22 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,172
@116,149
> It doesn't matter why they transpired.
LMAO, see what I mean? You're very ignorant. It certainly does matter why things transpired.
> This is rape and murder endorsed by god.
What you quoted is part of the record of a civil war between the tribe of Benjamin and the other 11 tribes of Israel, which has nothing to do with God's "endorsement". Jabesh-Gilead was sacked by the 11 because they had refused to come up to Mizpeh to take part with Israel against the tribe of Benjamin (Judg. 21:8-14). After the battle in which the tribe was reduced to 600 men, the inhabitants of Jabesh-Gilead were killed save 400 virgins (who were the only people allowed to be married at that time) sent as a peace offering to the Benjamin tribe in order to end the civil war. This is a record of history and denouncing things as 'evil' (which is stupid anyway, since what you believe evil is subjective inb4 you claim I'm a rape supporter) But you won't know that since you're apparently assuming that the Old Testament isn't mostly a record of the history of the Israelites with a little bit of God inserted which is only attached so people can reference prophecies fulfilled in the New Testament.
I find it strange how you're frothing at the mouth of 'gods allowance' of the "rape" of 600 girls but are making no mention of the civil war which reduced a tribe from 25,000 men to 600 men. Maybe that's because you don't research things before pissing and moaning.
> It doesn't matter why they transpired.
LMAO, see what I mean? You're very ignorant. It certainly does matter why things transpired.
> This is rape and murder endorsed by god.
What you quoted is part of the record of a civil war between the tribe of Benjamin and the other 11 tribes of Israel, which has nothing to do with God's "endorsement". Jabesh-Gilead was sacked by the 11 because they had refused to come up to Mizpeh to take part with Israel against the tribe of Benjamin (Judg. 21:8-14). After the battle in which the tribe was reduced to 600 men, the inhabitants of Jabesh-Gilead were killed save 400 virgins (who were the only people allowed to be married at that time) sent as a peace offering to the Benjamin tribe in order to end the civil war. This is a record of history and denouncing things as 'evil' (which is stupid anyway, since what you believe evil is subjective inb4 you claim I'm a rape supporter) But you won't know that since you're apparently assuming that the Old Testament isn't mostly a record of the history of the Israelites with a little bit of God inserted which is only attached so people can reference prophecies fulfilled in the New Testament.
I find it strange how you're frothing at the mouth of 'gods allowance' of the "rape" of 600 girls but are making no mention of the civil war which reduced a tribe from 25,000 men to 600 men. Maybe that's because you don't research things before pissing and moaning.
TTEH !penisGseqs replied with this 11 months ago, 16 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,173
@116,168
I thought you were Killer Duck. :(
I thought you were Killer Duck. :(
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 months ago, 34 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,174
@116,171
Could we get some angry Quran passages ITT?
Could we get some angry Quran passages ITT?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,176
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 15 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,179
@116,172
Because god is supposed to be just. It doesn't matter if their was a civil war, it doesn't hange the fact that god condoned rape. And how am I frothing at the mouth?
Because god is supposed to be just. It doesn't matter if their was a civil war, it doesn't hange the fact that god condoned rape. And how am I frothing at the mouth?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 15 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,180
@116,174
Give me a moment, I have some good one's.
Give me a moment, I have some good one's.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,181
@116,179
> Because god is supposed to be just
He is just.
> it doesn't hange the fact that god condoned rape
Where did God condone rape? The only thing that God came into in that story was when it explained that the 11 tribes had sworn a solemn vow before him that they would not give their daughters to marriage within Benjamin, which they could not break.
> Because god is supposed to be just
He is just.
> it doesn't hange the fact that god condoned rape
Where did God condone rape? The only thing that God came into in that story was when it explained that the 11 tribes had sworn a solemn vow before him that they would not give their daughters to marriage within Benjamin, which they could not break.
Anais replied with this 11 months ago, 24 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,182
@116,060
Lol. You clearly haven't read the quran. It's no different in that it preaches respect to all 'people of the book' which is exactly what is meant in christianity too. There's even a section in there about respecting all people regardless of their faith or lack of. Most parts that preach aggression towards non-muslims is related to tribal warfare situations since the quran is quite a political book.
Lol. You clearly haven't read the quran. It's no different in that it preaches respect to all 'people of the book' which is exactly what is meant in christianity too. There's even a section in there about respecting all people regardless of their faith or lack of. Most parts that preach aggression towards non-muslims is related to tribal warfare situations since the quran is quite a political book.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,187
@116,181
How is the rape and murder of innocent people just?
How is the rape and murder of innocent people just?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,190
@116,180
Cruelty in the Quran
As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. ... An exemplary punishment from Allah.--5:38
Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
Cruelty in the Quran
As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. ... An exemplary punishment from Allah.--5:38
Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
(Edited 27 seconds later.)
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,196
@116,172
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) quadruple-posted this 11 months ago, 42 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,197
@116,190
"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
"And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
"On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6
They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
"Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244
If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you." 2:190
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a
"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
"And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
"On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6
They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
"Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244
If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you." 2:190
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) quintuple-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,198
@116,196
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) sextuple-posted this 11 months ago, 37 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,199
@116,197
But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've killed off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to kill them too. 2:193b
"Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201
Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
It's you and your religion against them and theirs. They won't stop fighting until they make you a "renegade from your religion" and if they succeed in that so you die in disbelief, Allah will burn you forever in the Fire. 2:217
Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257
"Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275
Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4
Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10
Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12
But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've killed off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to kill them too. 2:193b
"Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201
Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
It's you and your religion against them and theirs. They won't stop fighting until they make you a "renegade from your religion" and if they succeed in that so you die in disbelief, Allah will burn you forever in the Fire. 2:217
Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257
"Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275
Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4
Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10
Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12
Anais replied with this 11 months ago, 27 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,201
@116,190
The quran is full of contradictions. Big surprise. It's a stinker of a book. Big surprise there too. I think arguing over which is more harmful, islam, christianity or whatever is like comparing apples and oranges. It really makes no difference if you just don't like fruit. Political propoganda and agendas aside, at their bare bones, the religions are all a mess of farcical inconsistencies and hypocricies.
The quran is full of contradictions. Big surprise. It's a stinker of a book. Big surprise there too. I think arguing over which is more harmful, islam, christianity or whatever is like comparing apples and oranges. It really makes no difference if you just don't like fruit. Political propoganda and agendas aside, at their bare bones, the religions are all a mess of farcical inconsistencies and hypocricies.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,203
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,206
@116,198
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,210
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 11 months ago, 23 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #116,237
@previous
God caused that, and "inspired" men to write about it.
God caused that, and "inspired" men to write about it.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,249
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,525
@116,010
the bible doesn't encourage murder lol. The Jewish law did prescribe capital punishment for a wide range of crimes though. Christians do not follow Jewish law.
the bible doesn't encourage murder lol. The Jewish law did prescribe capital punishment for a wide range of crimes though. Christians do not follow Jewish law.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,530
@116,064
Why do you speak on topics you have no knowledge. Why not actually read the Koran before you tell us what it teaches. The old testament is god's covenant with the Jews. It doesn't apply to Christians
Why do you speak on topics you have no knowledge. Why not actually read the Koran before you tell us what it teaches. The old testament is god's covenant with the Jews. It doesn't apply to Christians
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos triple-posted this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,534
@116,078
OMG lol. I am phone right now but I can teach you about Christian theology if you like.
OMG lol. I am phone right now but I can teach you about Christian theology if you like.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos quadruple-posted this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,541
@116,089
Lol you are daft. It is INDIRECTLY caused by the bible, because we have two religious groups fighting over land.
That might even be too much of a stretch, because the conflict is about land, religion is just incidental
Lol you are daft. It is INDIRECTLY caused by the bible, because we have two religious groups fighting over land.
That might even be too much of a stretch, because the conflict is about land, religion is just incidental
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos quintuple-posted this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,542
@116,093
Jesus is the truth.
Jesus is the truth.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos sextuple-posted this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,546
@116,120
Lol toto you have no idea what you are talking about. The book is entirely symbils
Lol toto you have no idea what you are talking about. The book is entirely symbils
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos septuple-posted this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,551
@116,133
Lol no it wouldn't because how would acts make sense as a symbol? Romans? Galatians? Etc
The prophetic books. Are largely symbolic
Lol no it wouldn't because how would acts make sense as a symbol? Romans? Galatians? Etc
The prophetic books. Are largely symbolic
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 52 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,552
@previous
You're just saying generic responses with no real content to back up anything.
You're just saying generic responses with no real content to back up anything.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,554
@116,135
This is also true. Hitler, Stalin, mao, Pol pot, George. Bush LOL
This is also true. Hitler, Stalin, mao, Pol pot, George. Bush LOL
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,558
@116,552
I'M on phone. But do you not know the contents of the books I mentioned?
I'M on phone. But do you not know the contents of the books I mentioned?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos triple-posted this 11 months ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,566
@116,136
This act was clearly against the will of god. In their anger they destroyed their brethren, felt bad, then stole women to restore the tribe, compounding their sin.
The moral summary comes in the final verse, directly after the story you told.
" In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did as he saw fit."
The point is to show the great evil of the time, and the need for a king, which is realized in the next book: the book of Samuel.
This act was clearly against the will of god. In their anger they destroyed their brethren, felt bad, then stole women to restore the tribe, compounding their sin.
The moral summary comes in the final verse, directly after the story you told.
" In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did as he saw fit."
The point is to show the great evil of the time, and the need for a king, which is realized in the next book: the book of Samuel.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos quadruple-posted this 11 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,778
@116,151
This law was a protection of rape victims. We can't judge ancient people by modern morals.
Virginity was highly prized in tribal societies and nobody would want a rape victim.
The law ensures that the rape victim will have all her expenses paid for the rest of her life.
Because of our freedom of mobility and compassion we judge a law like this as evil, but it was intended for good.
This law was a protection of rape victims. We can't judge ancient people by modern morals.
Virginity was highly prized in tribal societies and nobody would want a rape victim.
The law ensures that the rape victim will have all her expenses paid for the rest of her life.
Because of our freedom of mobility and compassion we judge a law like this as evil, but it was intended for good.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos quintuple-posted this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,780
@116,152
This law is to prevent false accusations of rape. In the country, though, accusations of rape were to be believed.
We have much better methods of investigation now, so this seems backwards to us. It was intended for good, though.
This law is to prevent false accusations of rape. In the country, though, accusations of rape were to be believed.
We have much better methods of investigation now, so this seems backwards to us. It was intended for good, though.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos sextuple-posted this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,783
@116,157
I don't see rape in that passage. I see his wives cheating on him. His son dies of an illness.
God permits evil in the world.
I don't see rape in that passage. I see his wives cheating on him. His son dies of an illness.
God permits evil in the world.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos septuple-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,785
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,786
@previous
@116,783
@116,780
@116,778
Don't bother. She doesn't look at things properly before denouncing them, and then always refuses to change her mind after proven wrong (instead using things like 'it doesn't really matter' and replying with 'okay' to every reply to kill debate).
@116,783
@116,780
@116,778
Don't bother. She doesn't look at things properly before denouncing them, and then always refuses to change her mind after proven wrong (instead using things like 'it doesn't really matter' and replying with 'okay' to every reply to kill debate).
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,788
@116,783
That's pretty insightful. You're doing a great job.
That's pretty insightful. You're doing a great job.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,793
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,796
@116,198
LOL Your first scripture is from
The Song of Deborah and Barak
Yor second scripture sounds abhorrent to modern western ears but even to many people today arranged mariages are common. Throughout history, the practise of arranged marriages has flourished but not many cultures include the proviso of a slave not being a concubine, but a wife; not being a slave, but a daughter, and if you fail the woman in any way she is free to leave.
LOL Your first scripture is from
The Song of Deborah and Barak
Yor second scripture sounds abhorrent to modern western ears but even to many people today arranged mariages are common. Throughout history, the practise of arranged marriages has flourished but not many cultures include the proviso of a slave not being a concubine, but a wife; not being a slave, but a daughter, and if you fail the woman in any way she is free to leave.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,798
The Quran says not to bother convincing people but the Bible tells me that God loves toto and that I should love her too.
Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,802
@116,783
You've kinda opened my eyes there with that insight, I didn't know you were so deep. Keep at it, your're good at this.
You've kinda opened my eyes there with that insight, I didn't know you were so deep. Keep at it, your're good at this.
qvii joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,805
@116,783
the bible is such a genius piece of literature I like to keep it in my bathroom
and use it for toilet paper :3
the bible is such a genius piece of literature I like to keep it in my bathroom
and use it for toilet paper :3
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,807
@116,201
Where is the contradiction and hypocrisy in Christianity?
Christians are hypocrites and contradict the teaching of the bible because they are just people. All people make mistakes.
Where is the contradiction and hypocrisy in Christianity?
Christians are hypocrites and contradict the teaching of the bible because they are just people. All people make mistakes.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,811
@116,805
Do what you like, I can think of a better use for it though.
Do what you like, I can think of a better use for it though.
Anonymous W replied with this 11 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,816
@previous
Drying the eyes of crying children?
Drying the eyes of crying children?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,832
@116,206
You talked about critical thinking skills before. How about critical reading? An important part of critical reading is context. Let's examine the next verse after those the 2 that you posted: verse 3.
"The LORD will come out and fight against those peoples"
But, wait... you mean Zechariah wrote that God would fight against the plunderers and rapists?
Why would someone deliberately quote the preceding two verses in such a way as to distort the meaning of the passage? This is nothing less than intellectual dishonesty.
You talked about critical thinking skills before. How about critical reading? An important part of critical reading is context. Let's examine the next verse after those the 2 that you posted: verse 3.
"The LORD will come out and fight against those peoples"
But, wait... you mean Zechariah wrote that God would fight against the plunderers and rapists?
Why would someone deliberately quote the preceding two verses in such a way as to distort the meaning of the passage? This is nothing less than intellectual dishonesty.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,834
@116,816
I was thinking "reading"; tissues would probably be better for drying eyes.
I was thinking "reading"; tissues would probably be better for drying eyes.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,836
@116,832
> The LORD will come out and fight against those peoples
I take that to mean the half of Jerusalem which was not put into exile. It is not the people who plundered and raped Jerusalem who the lord came out and fought against, but Jerusalem.
> The LORD will come out and fight against those peoples
I take that to mean the half of Jerusalem which was not put into exile. It is not the people who plundered and raped Jerusalem who the lord came out and fought against, but Jerusalem.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 12 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,838
@116,237
God doesn't cause you to sin.
God doesn't cause you to sin.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,842
@116,836
The chapter is headed "The LORD will fight for Jerusalem" in many bibles.
It says peoples (i.e. nations) whereas the people of Jerusalem were one people, one nation. Your interpretation is untenable.
The chapter is headed "The LORD will fight for Jerusalem" in many bibles.
It says peoples (i.e. nations) whereas the people of Jerusalem were one people, one nation. Your interpretation is untenable.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,867
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,883
@previous
:D
:D
Anonymous Z-2 joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #116,903
@116,783
Wow... that. Actually makes a lot of sense. I don't normally like you MM but that was very well written!
Wow... that. Actually makes a lot of sense. I don't normally like you MM but that was very well written!
replied with this 11 months ago, 14 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,474
@116,783
> I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.
Idiot.
@previous
No it wasn't. In fact it was the most retarded thing he's written ITT. :|
> I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.
Idiot.
@previous
No it wasn't. In fact it was the most retarded thing he's written ITT. :|
Anonymous Z-2 replied with this 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,476
@previous
It actually made a lot of sense. I think MM should expand on it, because I've become very interested.
It actually made a lot of sense. I think MM should expand on it, because I've become very interested.
replied with this 11 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,477
@previous
What about it made sense?
What about it made sense?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,604
@117,474
Like many cultures ancient and modern, the israelites practised polygamy. Is this the nature of your objection?
Like many cultures ancient and modern, the israelites practised polygamy. Is this the nature of your objection?
Mister !Bones6oqqQ joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,607
@previous
We were made to be polygamous, by god or science, it's a natural thing. The point of life is to make new life. Right?
We were made to be polygamous, by god or science, it's a natural thing. The point of life is to make new life. Right?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 11 months ago, 23 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #117,634
@previous
I think you mean nature, not science lol that sounds like genetic engineering.
Family structures are a cultural thing, but monogamy is the most logical one today.
I think you mean nature, not science lol that sounds like genetic engineering.
Family structures are a cultural thing, but monogamy is the most logical one today.